Legislature(2005 - 2006)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/13/2006 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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     CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 207(L&C)                                                                                            
     "An Act relating to the membership on the board of directors                                                               
     of the Alaska Aerospace Development Corporation."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 10:09:10 AM / 10:10:00 AM                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DOUG  LETCH, Staff  to Senator  Gary  Stevens, the  bill's  sponsor,                                                            
explained  that  this  bill  would  increase  the  Alaska  Aerospace                                                            
Development  Corporation (AADC) Board  of Directors membership  from                                                            
nine to 11 members. In  addition, it would specify that three of the                                                            
11 members must reside  on Kodiak Island, which is the area in which                                                            
AADC launch activities occur.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch informed the  Committee that the current nine member Board                                                            
is comprised  of three  State residents "who  have significant  high                                                            
level  experience  in  private  business  sector,   specializing  in                                                            
finance,   economic  development   or  marketing".   Current   Board                                                            
membership also  includes the University of Alaska  President or his                                                            
designee, the  University of Alaska  Geophysical Institute  director                                                            
or his designee, the Department  of Commerce, Community and Economic                                                            
Development  Commissioner  or his  designee, "two  members who  have                                                            
held or currently hold  a position in the aerospace industry or have                                                            
special experience  with federal regulatory  procedures or  policies                                                            
involving  space or  operational experience",  and  a public  school                                                            
educator or public member.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch stated that the  fact that none of the seats are currently                                                            
dedicated to a Kodiak Island  Borough resident is one of the reasons                                                            
that this bill was introduced.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch  noted that  AADC has  conducted "numerous  rocket  launch                                                            
construction  projects and  other activities"  at its Kodiak  Launch                                                            
Complex  (KLC) since  the late  1990s. The activities  impact  local                                                            
government activities,  businesses, recreational activities, as well                                                            
as the economy.  KLC is also an integral  component of the  nation's                                                            
missile defense system.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Letch remarked  that  the bill's  sponsor has  determined  that                                                            
local  representation   on  the  AADC   Board  is  important.   This                                                            
legislation  is  supported by  the  City of  Kodiak  and the  Kodiak                                                            
Island  Borough, which  has developed  a Resolution  [copy on  file]                                                            
reflecting their support.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:12:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  asked  the  history  of  Kodiak  Island  residents'                                                            
participation on the Board.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch noted  that up until the previous year,  two Kodiak Island                                                            
residents  were on  the Board;  currently  there is  only one.  That                                                            
person  is Dave Woodruff,  a successful  fish  cannery operator  and                                                            
member  of  the  City Council.  The  other  individual  was  also  a                                                            
successful businessman  who resigned for personal  reasons. A person                                                            
who did not reside in Kodiak replaced him.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:13:23 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Stedman   supported   "the   concept   of   having   local                                                            
representation"  on  such  Boards;  however,  he asked  whether  the                                                            
requirement  that  a Board  member  must possess  "a  high level  of                                                            
experience"  might  pose  a  problem;  in  other  words,  a  limited                                                            
qualified  applicant pool might  be available  for a vacant  seat on                                                            
the Board.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:14:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch  pointed  out that  a person  from Kodiak  could hold  the                                                            
Board seat specified  for either a member of the public  or a public                                                            
school educator.  Island  inhabitants would  attest that there  "are                                                            
plenty  of qualified people  there,  and that it  would never  be an                                                            
issue."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green  asked  whether  the  public   educator  seat  being                                                            
referenced  is the seat  designated  in Section  1(a)(6) on page  2,                                                            
line 9.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch affirmed.  A Kodiak Island resident could  be appointed to                                                            
the  public school  educator  or public  member seat  designated  in                                                            
Section 1(a)(6).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green countered  that  the  three Kodiak  Island  resident                                                            
memberships  being  proposed  would appear  to  be included  in  the                                                            
language  in CS SB  207(L&C)  Version 24-LS1208\Y,  Section  1(a)(1)                                                            
page 1, line 8 through 12. This language reads as follows.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          (1) five [THREE] state residents who have a significant                                                             
     high  level  of experience  in  the  private  business  sector,                                                            
     specializing   in   financing   or  economic   development   or                                                            
     marketing;  three of the state  residents appointed  under this                                                          
     paragraph  shall be residents  of the borough where  the launch                                                          
     activities of the corporation occur;                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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Co-Chair Green  suggested that the  Board member designations  could                                                            
be  specified  and  then  language  allowing   three  Kodiak  Island                                                            
residents to qualify for any of the seats could be included.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Letch voiced  his  approval of  that  suggestion.  It would  be                                                            
further reviewed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson understood  that, at times, the Kodiak Launch site has                                                            
been utilized  by the federal Department  of Defense (DoD).  To that                                                            
point, he  asked whether  the AADC Board  has authority specific  to                                                            
management decisions about  how the facility could be used and which                                                            
clients could use it.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch, while deferring  to the Department of Commerce, Community                                                            
and  Economic  Development,  stated  that  the Board  "serves  in  a                                                            
variety of capacities  as a standard board with advisory  capacities                                                            
and also decision making capacities".                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:19:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  worried that  the  Board  might desire  to  preclude                                                            
clients such as  the DoD who might use the site "for  very strategic                                                            
national defense issues".                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SALLY  SADDLER,   Legislative  Liaison,   Department  of   Commerce,                                                            
Community  and  Economic  Development  replied  that she  could  not                                                            
adequately  respond  to  the concern  until  she  conducted  further                                                            
research.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Green noted  that  Mark Hamilton,  AADC  Board Member  and                                                            
President  of the  University of  Alaska was  on teleconference  and                                                            
might be able to answer Senator Dyson's question.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:20:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MARK  HAMILTON,  Chair,  Alaska Aerospace  Development  Corporation                                                             
Board   and  President,   University   of  Alaska,   testified   via                                                            
teleconference   from   an  offnet   site.   "The   Board  has   the                                                            
responsibility  of  discovering   the  qualifications  of  a  launch                                                            
partner, and they  are very specifically technical,  and there's, as                                                            
you might expect, a very  very extensive contract drawn up with each                                                            
customer.  No  one has  dibs  on the  range,  no  one is  a  certain                                                            
customer until considered by the Board."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:21:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson  stated that  the response  "raises questions",  as it                                                            
could be  interpreted to  mean that the Board  could decide  to deny                                                            
DoD from utilizing "the facility for national defense purposes".                                                                
                                                                                                                                
President  Hamilton  responded that  such  a decision  would be  "an                                                            
extraordinary circumstance".                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President  Hamilton   communicated  that  the  current  contractual                                                             
agreement would  require DoD to provide  the Board "a very  specific                                                            
timeline if they  had a project which required a specific  reaction,                                                            
there would be  contractual obligations on their part."  Continuing,                                                            
he noted that  were "commercial customers to suddenly  appear in the                                                            
numbers that,  frankly, were envisioned  12 years ago where  you had                                                            
the potential of an Iridium  Corporation launching and refreshing as                                                            
many  as  600 satellites,"   the Board  might  make  the  "difficult                                                            
corporate decision"  to deny a DoD request that did  not pertain "to                                                            
a  dire  national  need." The  Board  would  desire  to accommodate                                                             
commercial  opportunities "rather  than holding  the range  open for                                                            
whenever" DoD decided to use it.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson  assumed  that  the  Board's  mission  would  include                                                            
consideration  of regional  environmental  concerns,  the impact  of                                                            
activities  on both offshore  and onshore areas,  the safety  of the                                                            
local residents,  and the  financial stability  of the Corporation.                                                             
However,  he was  concerned  that "a  philosophical  anti-war  anti-                                                            
national bent of the Board could restrict U.S. defense efforts."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:22:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
President Hamilton responded  that were the Board "prudently staffed                                                            
with people who have that  kind of a bias, that that would certainly                                                            
be a risk."  He opined that  that "is not  the case of the  existing                                                            
Board or any  Board membership that  I have been associated  with to                                                            
date".  The  concerns   about  the  site's  impact   on  Kodiak  are                                                            
absolutely  paramount with the Board,  as substantiated by  the fact                                                            
that  just about  "every single  thing that  is done  out there"  is                                                            
scrutinized.  The position of the  people who live on Kodiak  Island                                                            
has been  a known  factor as  a result  of the fact  that there  has                                                            
traditionally  been voting  Island representation  on the Board.  In                                                            
addition,  non-voting elected  officials, including  members  of the                                                            
Legislature,  have  represented  the  interests  of the  Island.  In                                                            
addition,  the majority  of the Board  meetings  are held in  public                                                            
forums. The Board conducts a great deal of effort on issues.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dyson acknowledged.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:23:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  voiced   appreciation  for  President   Hamilton's                                                            
comments  about Legislative  participation on  the Board, as  he has                                                            
served for  several years  on the Board as  a representative  of the                                                            
Senate.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken   assured  the  Committee  that,  historically,   a                                                            
Legislator representing  the Kodiak Island District  has been a non-                                                            
voting member of the Board.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  asked whether there  is "a sense that the  voice of                                                            
Kodiak  has been squelched  and therefore  we need  to increase  the                                                            
membership."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:24:56 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch declared that  Co-Chair Wilken's comments "hit the nail on                                                            
the  head."  While   Legislators  representing  the   District  have                                                            
continued to serve  in "an ex officio capacity" on  the Board, there                                                            
have historically been  two Kodiak Island resident voting members on                                                            
the  Board. It  is unknown  as to  "whether  this was  by design  or                                                            
happenstances".  The AADC facility  has become "a lightning  rod" to                                                            
the community  in that people  watch "every  move that AADC  makes."                                                            
Some people  oppose the decisions  made by  AADC and others  support                                                            
them.  The site  has  become an  important  economic  factor on  the                                                            
Island.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:25:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch  stated  that the  decisions made  by AADC  do affect  the                                                            
community,  and the people in Kodiak  "feel that" incorporating  the                                                            
two voting Board  membership requirement would best  represent their                                                            
interests.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:26:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken voiced concern  that adoption  of this legislation                                                             
might result in  there being requests for geographic  representation                                                            
on other boards.  No other board currently  has such specification.                                                             
Adoption of  this legislation would  also specify that more  than 25                                                            
percent of  the Board would  be representing  one area. His  concern                                                            
could  be likened  to that  professed earlier  by  Senator Dyson  in                                                            
that,  while this  might be  acceptable  today, in  the future  this                                                            
action  "may  lessen the  use  of  that rocket  range  for  whatever                                                            
reason."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Wilken  voiced concern about "the precedent"  that might be                                                            
established. As  a result of this legislation, "there  could be four                                                            
people at the table speaking  on behalf of Kodiak." He believed that                                                            
"Kodiak is  well-represented  … the people  of Kodiak have  not been                                                            
ignored at all;  to the contrary, I suggest that they've  been heard                                                            
and reheard."  While some  people might not  support the  activities                                                            
that occur  at the  site, "the vast  majority  would agree that  the                                                            
rocket  range is  a benefit"  both  to the  area and  to Alaska.  In                                                            
summary, he  could not support the  legislation as it might  lead to                                                            
geographical representation  as opposed to qualifications  dictating                                                            
board membership. "If it isn't broke don't fix it."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:28:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson spoke  in support  of Co-Chair  Wilken comments.  The                                                            
Kodiak Launch site is a  major launch site that is "very strategic …                                                            
to our national interests."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:29:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked whether some controversial issue  of importance                                                            
to Kodiak  Island residents  was defeated  at some  point, due  to a                                                            
lack of votes on behalf of the local people.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:29:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Letch was unaware of "any specific instance."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:30:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
President  Hamilton  stated  that the  membership  of  the Board  as                                                            
currently  designated is  appropriate,  and he did  not support  the                                                            
proposed  changes.   The  Legislators   who  have  represented   the                                                            
interests of Kodiak on  the Board have done a good job. The Board is                                                            
also aware of  its responsibilities. The individual  from Kodiak who                                                            
resigned  from the  Board did  so because  his business  "was  being                                                            
boycotted".  The involvement  of  politics with  private  activities                                                            
could explain  the failure of governmental  corporations.  The Board                                                            
has discussed  a variety of membership  issues including  whether or                                                            
not the  University  President or  the Director  of the Geophysical                                                             
Institute  of  the University  should  be  on  the Board.  While  he                                                            
understood the  reason those entities were designated  when the AADC                                                            
Board  was initially  developed 12  years prior,  changes that  have                                                            
occurred over  time might dictate that there should  be fewer rather                                                            
than  more  specific  Board  member  designations.  The  reason  for                                                            
including the Commissioner  of Department of Commerce, Community and                                                            
Economic  Development  and  someone who  understands  the  aerospace                                                            
industry on the  Board could be substantiated; however,  it would be                                                            
difficult for  him to substantiate the reason "at  this stage of the                                                            
game" for  requiring that  the University of  Alaska President  or a                                                            
representative  of the  Geophysical  Institute to  be on the  Board.                                                            
"This ought to be a commercial  board" comprised of people who could                                                            
move a corporation forward.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:33:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman inquired  as to how often and where the Board meets.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Hamilton replied that  while the Board primarily meets quarterly                                                            
in Anchorage, there would be a meeting in Kodiak in June 2006.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Green ordered the bill HELD in Committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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